www.saintmaxworldwide.org A comparison of Adult stem cell research versus embryonic.
President Barack Obama ended a ban on federal funding of stem cell research. Obama’s decision is a sharp reversal of the policies enacted by President George W. Bush. (March 9)
Damn..this video is great. Makes me think….These people who are opposing stem cell research are selfish idiots!!! They obviously don’t know what these people are going through. A lot would probably kill to get these potentially lifesaving, and definetly life-changing operations. It’s one incredible thing that religions just really need to stand back on for once. Give it a chance? Let it show how many millions of people it will help, and we’ll work from there.
These people don’t have a clue….why not see what the real doctors have to say at umich.edu/stemcell/faq/
Does anyone know how many cures we have found from embryonic stem cell research? 0. People need to do the research before supporting this kind of source fr stem cells. Fetal and human sources are much better and have cures.
@mediaray i’v seen treatment of adult stem cells for ms it doesn’t work to well lets just say…. can you say that embryonic stem cell research does not offer a better solution to problems like ms when adult stem cells have shown no help in these area’s. i know adult stem cells have helped but i see no help coming from them in these area’s. human potential is a bs excuse just admit it’s a purely religious argument you are just trying to hide behind science.
@johnnyd101 Really? That’s your scientific-based argument? Okay, quick lesson. A chimpanzee embryo will grow into a chimpanzee. A cow embryo will grow into…can you guess? A COW! Here’s the kicker…a HUMAN embryo will grow and develop into… A) a chimpanzee b) a cow or c) A HUMAN.
ALSO, TRY GOING TO STEMCELLRESEARCHFACTS . COM for real-life ways adult stem cells are helping people NOW.
@mediaray really so your anti abortion and invitro fertilization aswell??
@johnnyd101 One of HUNDREDS of scholarly articles about tumors in ESC. Google is your friend. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC263817/
A three-day-old human embryo becomes nthing else but a human, if it survives Iabortion, etc.)
@mediaray show me evidence of tumors??? a pig was an embryo a chipmanzee was an embryo a cow a dog any mammal your point being?? sorry accusing me of not being intelligent when all you do is fear monger and misrepresent embryonic stem cell research. what’s your real moral argument please tell me?? cause you seem to predicate your argument on 3 day embryo’s always leading to human life when you know that’s not always the case.
@johnnyd101 The Catholic Church created the system of health care and research we know today as hospitals. They earliest mission was that of Christ: “Heal the sick.” Thus, religion is the motivation for science and medicine.
And please, what “lies” are there in this video?
@johnnyd101 Calm down Johnny…please…take a chill pill. It’s okay to learn new things. Everything here is scientifically documented. Rogue tumors are well-documented. No, not “any skin can become a human…” you are being silly and emotional. What do you think a skin cell you scratch off becomes? A REALLY BIG skin cell? Silly. An embryo is human life at its earliest stages–YOU were once an embryo. Settle down there fella. Bring some intelligence and facts to the conversation.
tumors is a load of shite. quit lying to people. and you have just proved that any cell with a nucleus can become a human therefore scratching your skin is genocide according to you. feminists should shut up they have equality… adult stem cells has no cure for ms and your anecdotal evidence will not persuade me.. using somebody else’s life is bs and you know it. oh i’m sorry a catholic priest a church that is guilty of an ever increasing genocide of actual human lives that’s the guy to go 2.
@mediaray you can lie to people all you want but bringing religion into science is a terrible thing
@JesusisPerfect yes murder is a crime, when the person being murdered has a brain and a nervous system and a conciousness and even if the murder was painless the people who love them would feel pain for thier loss. Abortion isnt illegal, at least in this country and neither is stem cell research. I think that flushing the 1000′s of frozen embryos that the IVF industry produces each year instead of learning from them is incredibly stupid. buts thats my opinion isnt it
@Mulcebar wheter or not the “human life” (your words) feels pain and suffering is a moot point since, we would be essentially making the decision to end his/her life. Ask yourself this: If you took someone elses life w/o their consent and for your gain, but they felt no pain or suffering, would it still be a crime? My answer is yes.
Thanks for posting this informative video.
@Phyerbyrd I agree, of course an embryo is the beginning of a human life but until it is capable of thought and has developed the basic systems it cannot experience pain or suffering. I would strongly oppose research that caused senient beings pain, in fact I find it objectionable when I think about even rats being tortured in a lab but not embryos, they have no conciousness. If this was about fetal stem cell research id be dead against it. this not so much.
@mediaray the discovery of stem cells and their ability to differentiate into any tissue in the body is undeniably a pivotal milestone in medical science. My opinion is that closing the door on embryonic stem cell research in favour of adult stem cell research will hinder the development of the science. As someone who’s life is affected by spinal cord injury I think that stem cell research holds the key to treatments for such injuries and that embryonic research is an important area of study.
@Mulcebar Mulce…listen and learn. YOU are the ignorant one…close- minded and just silly with your “arguments.” We have science that works…why waste money on that which doesn’t work? Remember the Tuskegee Experiments? Your thinking about “the dark ages” was also used to justify them…yes, we learned about STD’s, and ruined the lives of southern black men in the process. ESC is OLD NEWS, medically, scientificially, as well as ethically. BUT, you may beat a dead horse if you wish.
what a load of shit. we need to understand how this science works not throw our hands up and say “oh well its too hard lets give up” eventually medical science will understand this and other ethically questionable sciences like genetic engineering, a century down the line we will look back and see this time as if it were the dark ages where ignorance and fear prohibited our understanding.
@xenxn3 X-3, DON’T BE DECEIVED BY LITTLE LETTERS FOLLOWING A NAME! Jennifer Lahl is the Founder and National Director of the Center for Bioethics and Culture Network (CBC). She serves on the North American editorial board for the international journal, Ethics and Medicine, and is a Fellow of the Council for Biotechnology Policy in Washington, DC.
@redsoilder3 I am no expert, but as far as I know adult stem cells are a lot harder to grow than embryonic stem cells; they are quite rare and can only be found in isolated pockets called stem cell niches found in mature tissue. Also, scientists believe that adult stem cells can only specialise into the cell of the tissue that the stem cell came from, for example adult stem cells taken from your skin can only specialise into skin cells. Embryonic cells grow relatively fast so are easier to grow.
@redsoilder3 I am no expert, but as far as I know adult stem cells are a lot harder to grow than embryonic stem cells; they are quite rare and can only be found in isolated pockets called stem cell niches found in mature tissue. Also, scientists believe that adult stem cells can only specialise into the cell of the tissue that the stem cell came from, for example adult stem cells taken from your skin can only specialise into skin cells. Embryonic cells grow relatively fast so are easier to grow.
@mediaray Thanks
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can you live forever through stem cells?
I wish more credible sources were used as educators in this video; RN Jennifer Laul does not work for me. One day, I hope that journalists will be required to apply for licenses if they wish to disseminate technical information about cutting edge research.
nice try obama
Obama…. you have disappointed me until now its about damn time they remove the ban on this. This technology is the future… rejuvenation of lost limbs, organ and tissue etc… and the stem cells also have the capabilities to cure many diseases and this is well amazing. You do not necessarily need babies to acquire stem cells. Adults can provide them as well through skin samples.
All stem cells necessary for research could be taken from blood in umbilical cords. This is a viable process which has been done at no danger to anyone whatsoever. It does not have any implications on the process of life, abortions, possible lives, or anything of moral conflict. These umbilical cords are otherwise medical waste, sign a form get preserved–Done.
“as a person of faith” …yeah right ! haha
i cant wait till he comes out of that closet, not that he will till he’s won everyone over though. clever plan
I’m glad he did this, a smart decision
That funding ban was yet another example of how the IDIOCY of a few individuals make lives worse for millions of people
I find it funny that so many people think that “stem cells” are only egg cells from a womans vagina. “stem cells” are cells that can transform into many different forms of cells. You have “stem cells” in your teeth. The only reason scientists covet egg stem cells is because they can transform into ALL possible forms of body cells.
@oran6es Zeus will smite you. Zeus is the one true god.
………..and some are afraid of the truth.
Some people are afraid of progress.
@Richy15251 If a corporation develops mature cells via pulling apart a young embryo, keeping it alive, artificially stimulating its development as groups of cells, OR if the human develops as a whole, naturally into a mature individual, is there a difference? In case one you’ve developed the infant cells to provide for another individual(middle-aged?) and denied the very existence of another thinking individual in the process. That’s an unethical net loss.
@Richy15251 That’s your utilitarian view on it. The truth is you, as an individual, began as a zygote, within 24h of conception. In 3days you differentiated and matured to 150-200 cells. In a few weeks your limb buds, your nervous system, and all other parts of your body were becoming defined. All different phases of you. A continuum of development, living all the way.
After months of manipulation in dishes, these cells are very recognizable. Infant nerve, heart, pancreatic cells.
@oran6es You’re right they do deserve more, they deserve to save lives in hospitals, while they don’t have to feel pain or anything, they’re indistinguishable from non-living matter, they don’t have brains, have emotions or make social connections, they’re microscopic blobs of organic material
@oran6es they ‘will’ have a conscience if we let them develop in the same way that we shouldn’t harm grain because it might be used in the production of a brain (and a conscience) in a human body and there for it ‘will’ have a conscience. Any organic molecule ‘has the potential’ to become a conscious being, in fact, every cell in the body does.
At that level, the difference between living matter and inanimate objects is very minute
@Richy15251 But they will have a conscious will if not pulled apart. An embryo is an individual developing human, not a potential human. They in fact deserve much more.
@oran6es embryos do not have a conscious will, they do not suffer from pain, they don’t have feelings and are as important as skin cells. They deserve as much concern as sperm cells or hair follicles
@Richy15251 Organ donors are voluntary donors and they’re dead already. They’re not pulled apart while alive and developing
obama is not all that bad
@oran6es Is the way that hospitals ‘buy and sell’ organs from organ donors to patients immoral? how about how companies place a value on their employees lives by paying only a certain amount in safety measures? Why not get angry about that?
@Richy15251 Cell corporations have already received funding for such research. One goal of such research is to convert young “spare” human embryos in the blastocyst stage, via separation and forced maturation into mature cell types, into marketable implantable cells(eg pancreatic cells for diabetes).
@oran6es that’s a terrible analogy. Also, no one’s suggesting we buy and sell embryos…
@spacecowboy95 Should a 300 yo redwood tree be allowed to exist, to live, to be, or should it be converted into marketable commodities(lawn furniture, etc.) for a corporation’s profit? By the same token shouldn’t a young developing human be allowed immunity from conversion into marketable commodities?
I say don’t misuse either living organism.
@killllshot embryos being the few
Please correct me if iam wrong but didnt “GOD say the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?
Good. Stem cell research will save lives. Fuck religious ideology.
@PirateKing1256 i agree